Qianlong porcelain bowl from Norton's Art

Hello guys, I know that I am mega lazy right now but since I receive some likes in my facebook, so I have decided to post some entries.  In this week, I have found an interesting piece that can showcase what we have learnt previously.

Preview Entry 9 - Norton's Art (Fine Chinese Ceramics, Painting, Works of Art) 7 July 2016

Chinese porcelain bowl, famille rose glazed, marked

Lot 8M

6 Characters (大清乾隆年製) base mark

Estimated: $100 - $200

Motifs

For this piece, apart from the shape, we must be aware for the motifs on this piece.  As we can see here, we can find the butterfly (蝶), which has the meaning of longevity, double happiness (雙囍), and floral design that resemble peony (牡丹), which has the meaning of wealth.  For double happiness and butterfly, these motifs are well used in late Qing pieces especially during Tongzhi reign (同治 1856-1875).

Palace Museum, China

Now we explain why it is problematic

Motifs again

As we mentioned before, double happiness and butterfly motifs are common used in Tongzhi reign, to be honest here I haven't seen a Qianlong piece with this motifs combination (I seen butterfly motifs on Qianlong fabric though).  Actually it is very weird to see Tongzhi motifs (1856-1875) on a Qianlong piece (1711-1799).  I know time travel is possible but I don't think it is possible 200 years ago.

Another thing is the poor drawing of motifs, for the butterfly I think it is quite nice, similar to the pieces from Tongzhi reign.  But for the double happiness and Peony, they look questionable, I guess they spent all the budget on the butterfly.  The double happiness are separated, the peony is too simple.  I cannot find a Qianlong piece with Peony motifs yet, but as you can see here, you can see the really big difference.

Palace Museum, Taiwan

Weird mark

For the base mark, It was inscribed as “大清乾隆年製”.  Actually, it is okay to me if it is a piece from Tongzhi or Daoguang reign, since the mark is usually not very good in a famille rose piece, the production quality is dropping due to budget limitation.  The size for the mark is okay to me, not over sized or under sized.  Just one thing look weird to me, which is the "大", the head for the 大 is missing, I don't know if it is poorly photographed or what.

Shape

Actually I was going to skip this part since it is just too easy to spot the problem, the bowl is warped due to bad firing.  And the most important part is, it is not even a bowl, it looks like a satellite dish to me. seriously?

Conclusion

I think it worth the price if it is sold in $20, good for holding your key chain or coins, but I highly doubt that it is an authentic Qianlong piece.

So this is the preview after the long long vacation, I received lots of PMs from facebook, the pms and likes are meant a lot to me so I really thanks for the supports from you guys!

Preview Entry 6 - New Castle Art & Antique Gallery (Chinese Antiques and Collectibles 11-08-2015)

Hey Hey Hey, Connoisseur Bear is here!  I have noticed that we talked about many good stuffs recently, it’s time to talk about some “questionable” stuff, so that we can practice what we have learnt…

This week we will talk about a Qianlong monochrome dish.

For this dish, like the color itself, is full with red flags!

Chinese Porcelain Red Glazed Dish

Lot 245

4 Characters (乾隆年製) mark

Estimated: $600-$800

1.      Body & Foot rim

For the body of this dish, it is greyish and full of 
black dots (kiln grits), the greyish color and kiln grits (circled) are due to poor firing.  It contradicts with the quality of Qianlong wares already.  During the reigns of Kangxi康熙, Yongzheng雍正, Qianlong乾隆(we call it as Kang Yong Qian 康雍乾), it is the golden age of China pottery craftsmanship, so the quality like this dish is not acceptable at all, the potter who in charge of this dish can be punished for submitting stuffs like this.  

And the foot rim, it is kinda “dirty”, remember the peach bowl we talked about in first week (link)?  The foot rim reflect the quality of the material used, for this dish, it is not very good.  However, the porcelain near the mark is white and smooth, it means that the potter applied a good amount of slip (化妝土) near the mark, so it is white and shiny, but the bad thing for using slip is, it will turn yellow as the time pass.

2.      Mark

This one is too obvious… please have a quick look first.  There are two major issues I want to point out, first is the script style, second is the number of words.

For the script style, we can see that the style of this mark is quite different from the marks we talked about previously, even though they are in the same category, regular script (Kai Shu楷書), there is a slight difference.

Usually if you see fonts are writing in a direction like this, it’s a red flag, since this kind of script style is not used in Qing dynasty, you might find it in Ming dynasty though (still rare), or modern piece.

For the number of words, this one is the real problem.  In this mark, it is written as “乾隆年製”, however, in my knowledge only enamel or glass pieces use a 4 character marks, for the rest it is usually大清乾隆年製, either in regular script or mostly in seal script (Suan Shu篆書).  So this mark contradicts with the style during Qianlong reign.

Due to these two elements, this piece is problematic to me.  However, I do admire the courage for the one who bid this piece, let’s cheer for this person! (slow claps).  It’s a hard and crazy decision for me, or for him, if he read my blog.

wow come on!

Chinese Qing Wucai Porcelain Bowl

Preview Entry 2 - Steven's Art & Antiques (Asian and European Art & Antiques 08-22-2015)

Polychrome Dragon Bowl

Lot 121

D: 5 3/4"

6 Characters (大清乾隆年製) mark

Estimated: $5,000-$10,000

Starting bid: $2,000

In this week, our bear has found one relatively good piece from Steven’s Art.  It is a Wucai “Dragon and Phoenix” Bowl with 6 characters Qianlong imperial seal mark.  However, this piece has not been sold in that auction.  Rrrrrrrrrrgh!! (People should see this blog!) Our bear roar.

Why Connoisseur Bear think it is not a fake piece?

Here's why:

1. Color and Motifs

First of all, the painting and the mark for this bowl has passed our checks, the color of those motifs matched with the style during Qianlong dynasty.  And the motifs are nicely painted, the mark is nicely written.

2. Proportion

Secondly, it fits the proportion.  Sometimes we may find pieces with doubtful proportion, such as the foot rim is too tall, the mouth rim flair is too long.  However, this bowl is very similar to other “Dragon” bowls during Qianlong dynasty.

3. Clay quality and the damages on the bowl

Thirdly, we think that the damages on this bowl are helping us to identify the ages for this bowl.  For a fake piece, there is no need to create some fake damages and lower its price.  Also, the damages and the foot rim also show the body of this bowl (see red circles), which is white and dense, it shown that this bowl is made with fine quality clay, unlike some fake reproduction in later ages.  And if we examine the dragon inside the bowl, we can see some iron spots near the dragon (black circle), during the firing stage, some iron grits may attached to the porcelain, this phenomenon cannot be seen if you use electric kiln for porcelain production.

So, why no one would buy this bowl? 

First, it may relate to the damages on this bowl.  As we can see in the photos, there are about 4~5 chips, for each chip, it means the seller must send the bowl to a restorer if he would like to sell it again for a better price.  Even in Hong Kong, it is very hard to find a good restorer to fix the chips.  And even if we are lucky enough to find a master to restore this bowl, the price would be costly, and it must be even higher than the original price for this bowl.  And for the second reason, for each chips it means the possibility for further damages on this bowl, if we use flash light and put it behind those chips, we may find some hairline cracks, or even worse, some large cracks, which can further lower the resell price for this bowl.

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